Threadripper review, Core i9 full details, Intel 8th Gen Eclipse, and more | The Full Nerd Ep. 29



PCWorld’s Gordon Mah Ung, Brad Chacos, Adam Patrick Murray, and special guest Alaina Yee go over all the charts and graphs from AMD’s Ryzen Threadripper review. After that they detail the full list of Intel’s Core i9 chips and finish up covering the 8th Gen Great American Eclipse party!

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Threadripper review: 1:06
Core i9 details: 1:01:00
Intel 8th Gen Eclipse: 1:12:14

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49 thoughts on “Threadripper review, Core i9 full details, Intel 8th Gen Eclipse, and more | The Full Nerd Ep. 29

  • August 11, 2017 at 3:55 am
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    Sooo why keep on banging your head to the wall with the Winrar becnhmark, it's heavyly optimized for Intel, just see 7zip performance and boom there is no problem with any ryzen.

  • August 11, 2017 at 3:56 am
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    Streamers should get a Intel/Nvidia gaming rig and a Ryzen 1200 capture rig. Or use Shadowplay. The performance hit from streaming on even a 1950X or 7900X is absurd.

  • August 11, 2017 at 3:57 am
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    Also with so much cores you really need to start talking about heavy multitasking benchmarks, that's what people will use those CPUs for.

  • August 11, 2017 at 4:35 am
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    how fast is games in a 4 or 8-core vm with dedicated gpu?

  • August 11, 2017 at 4:42 am
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    I think you underestimate power users needs for more threads heavily, basically if you're just a gamer then you are not a power user. if you need a machine to game while you run server functions on the other available threads its a no brainier for the price. The more cores and threads personally for me to find uses for the better. Its like someone saying 640k is more than enough for anyone all over again.

  • August 11, 2017 at 4:57 am
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    Funny timing, i9 is not fully launched and intel fans will buy it, want to buy it, and then they announce Coffee Lake. Why have two competing generations at the same time, I don't understand. Ryzen 1800x and 1900 kind of makes sense how you explained it, and is minimal overlap, x parts core counts are more of an overlap with what we can assume Coffee Lake has.

  • August 11, 2017 at 5:03 am
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    everytime i read gordons name it tells me his young (ung = young in norwegian), hey can you look into shotcut video editor? its a open source video editor using mlt framework and ffmpeg/x264/x265

  • August 11, 2017 at 5:25 am
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    If You are gaming first You would definitely go for the 16 cores to handle the physics as single threaded games are end of life cycle and anyhow if u playing that kind of games, you running on consolle rather than PC

  • August 11, 2017 at 5:26 am
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    people are talking great about intel's single thread performance which is great. However the higher core chips won't be able to clock as high as the 7900x on all cores. The smaller chip design, mixed with the non soldered chip and mesh fabric that does not scale as well as ryzen, you get a combination of a very inefficient and hot chip with every core added. These chips are from xeon processors, Unless Intel makes the chip larger which at this point if they do, it wouldn't make sense as there would be another 400 dollars consumers would have to fork out for a larger socket motherboard, it isn't looking good for intel. Why do you think there is such a delay on the larger core model chips. With Xeon they could get away with high core counts because the frequencies weren't high, but as they increase frequencies on these skylake chips you won't be able to keep it cool, thus they will set the clock speeds for skylake extremely low. Reports are coming out that the base clock for skylake 18 core chip is less than 2.8 ghz, yes the boost is high on two cores but they won't be able to boost all cores to a super high frequency which will negate the single thread performance. Ryzen will win this matchup especially in cost/ performance measurements.

  • August 11, 2017 at 6:41 am
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    Bred is Intel fanboy? Who will buy Threadripper for gaming? Those who can buy it will have separated PC for that.

  • August 11, 2017 at 8:05 am
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    Threadripper are released, its fast and stomping core i9 series but im more concerned are for the owners of kaby lake CPU. Coffee lake will be released and intel just ignored the Kaby lake was just released 6 or 7 months ago. I might be wrong due to the picture Intel provides shows a laptop.

    AFAIK intel are releasing CPU with the average of 1.5 years apart. Not only that, 1 motherboard maker confirmed that coffee lake cpu will not work with z200 series board even though it is still using 1151 socket. I understand that 2 gen cpu in 1 gen mobo, but keep in mind those change are due to pin count socket but this coffee lake is still using 1151 socket.

    Bottom line is Intel is getting rattled and scared at the same time they want to cash in more money.

    Kudos to AMD.

  • August 11, 2017 at 8:25 am
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    What would be fascinating would be to see the performance of Threadripper for workstations applications such as running multiple VMs, Docker, Visual Studio/GCC compile times, etc. If I could decrease my compile time by half, that'd make me particularly happy.

  • August 11, 2017 at 11:01 am
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    and don't forget folks threadripper is just out it's gonna get better come back in 6 months when it's a much more mature and the peripherals around it and the software to the futures so bright amds gonna have to wear shades

  • August 11, 2017 at 2:13 pm
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    I have the R7 1700 in The Taichi Motherboard With an H60AIO, and I'm running 3.9 at 1.37.. I tryed to hit 4.0 at 1.40 volts and it wasn't stable and I'm not going to up my Volts any higher I want to use this platform for at least another 5/6 years, that extra 100Mhz isn't worth ruining your CPU over.. as off right now my temps have never been above 77c. under load and in everyday use my temps never really go above 44C. even when gaming.. Eventually I'm gonna go with a bigger Rad and go after that 4.0 mark but for now I'm very happy.. This Platform just keeps getting better and better with every update and new Bios.. Thanks AMD for making these chips so affordable.. I still can't believe I have an 8 core 16 thread processor.. My total set up is under $1500.. If I would have went with Intel it would have been more like $3000.. Enough said..

  • August 11, 2017 at 2:17 pm
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    Time Stamp, 13:30, Why is brad asking the question he already knows the answer too… Intel's running on average close to a 1000Mhz faster, It better be faster in single threaded apps that were designed on Intel platforms for Intel chips.. SMH.. We all know that everything in this world is optimized to favor Intel Code, and hinder AMD code.. Intel has been doing this dirty shit for over 25 years now..

  • August 11, 2017 at 2:33 pm
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    Gordon Ung, my thoughts on Threadripper.

    In the case of AMD Threadripper(TR), it is my opinion that this is a brilliant move by AMD. Here is why. These parts are really geared toward "content creators" that also game. Those are the same people that have channels on Youtube, Twitch, Floatplane, Facebook…etc. They are also the same people that do new product testing and reviews and then post them for all to see. Many of those post also often (but not always) talk about the rigs they use because we viewers kind of like that stuff and want to see how and why you guys make those hardware/software decisions. With 16/32 (cores/threads counts) and 12/24 in a modular config that is VERY scalable this is shot across the bow to Intel. AMD is essentially saying "Intel don't try to out core/thread us" as they could, at least in theory, go to a 32/64 with the TR platform. While the clocks would need to be around 2.3-2.5 GHz you still get 64 threads on your existing hardware! On the other hand Intel would need to design a new platform. The statements by Intel about "glued together" will eventually come back and bite them….HARD. Even if Intel can get the 7nm process right it is a safe bet that AMD's manufacturing partner Globalfounderies is either close to or ahead of Intel's fab. So even then AMD will be able to match what ever Intel does on a single die. This means that AMD will still be able to bring more core/threads with their modular architecture. This means two things 1. Intel's price premiums will have to come down…a lot 2) Programmers will design their programs to deal with high core count CPU's that Intel can't match on their current architecture. That will infer Intel will have to adopt the "glued together" form factor themselves or be forced out of (not completely) the Content Creator (CC) space. Further, as games get better at high core count CPU's and low level API's, the AMD approach will begin to get better at game play putting Intel at a significant risk of gigantic market share losses. In fact I am willing to bet that as CC's upgrade/replacement cycles come around many of them will switch to AMD for the increased productivity and only lose 5-9% in game play. After all they will gain 15-20% more render and content creation efficiency and that is increased profit at a lower price/core ratio and simply put, that is just good business. Money talks and AMD is screaming!

  • August 11, 2017 at 2:51 pm
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    Can someone please make a timestamp list?

  • August 11, 2017 at 3:42 pm
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    1000$ HEDT CPU and we have again people who keep holding back everyone with "Hey, single thread!" Reason we hearing about in 2017.year [two thousand and seventeenth] is the one you could catch even without knowing who AMD and Intel are. The one who push single thread into discussion is the one who keep you back in history.

  • August 11, 2017 at 3:59 pm
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    IF you do decide to do Overwatch benchmarks, I believe it gets a great amount of fps based on memory ram speed and not just gpu/cpu.

  • August 11, 2017 at 4:40 pm
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    I like the PCWorld audience, but I still see s lot of stupid AMD fan boys. I've been Team Red for almost a decade, but I'm nowhere as near annoying as these guys are. I don't even trash-talk. I just compared price and core count for the most part for the last half-decade.

  • August 11, 2017 at 5:28 pm
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    Thread-ripper really beats Intel. Let's see how long it takes Intel to come out with 16 Cores / 32 Threads, and what price they release it at.

  • August 11, 2017 at 5:47 pm
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    Honest question. With modern CPUs, what is the use of the term "base clock" when they run at higher frequencies anyway all the time? And if it's too hot they'll even throttle below baseclck.
    Anyone?

  • August 11, 2017 at 7:15 pm
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    I love the very…cozy…or friendly…or…I-feel-at-ease (the Swedish language has a perfect word for it but Google Translate would not give it justice)…feeling this discussion has. This was the first but not the last video I saw from you guys. Also, very professional setup in the group…one clear leader, no random chatting, high audio quality and very strict topic conversations without random sidetracks. I guess that's difficult with many members in the panel. Thumbs up!

  • August 11, 2017 at 10:21 pm
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    Everyone is getting on the multi core bandwagon now. It will take software a while to catch up still, game engines take a long time to build and are design determined by console hardware. It might take until the next console generation for engines to be redesigned. Productivity software might get revised sooner if laptop buyers end up adopting these new cpus.

  • August 11, 2017 at 10:22 pm
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    I can picture Intel making a 50 core cpu and selling it for 300.00 just to say take that AMD but its not going to happen because Intel does not need to.

  • August 11, 2017 at 10:43 pm
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    it's really important that AMD included game mode, people would have been outraged if some software (like Dirt) would be impossible to run, otherwise.

  • August 12, 2017 at 2:21 am
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    When the first 18 core cpu made for consumers/enthusiasts will be coming out on my birthday! :-0

  • August 12, 2017 at 7:18 am
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    The intel covfefe lake, mmm nope. Amd win.

  • August 12, 2017 at 8:52 am
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    52 minutes in touched on an important topic. One CPU for 1000 buck. Few years back you could get a mid-high range PC with $1000. Cost of a new PC has gone up a lot in the last 4 years. Why don't Intel and AMD phase out old parts and sell these new product at a reasonable price?

  • August 12, 2017 at 8:56 am
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    NEWS LEAK: We are hearing AMD is releasing a mainstream user CPU with 99 cores! State and I quote " I may have 99 problems but my cores ain't ONE! aiming directly at SINGLE core performance gaming rigs. TO WHICH INTEL replied: and I quote " You may have 99 problems but your cores ain't WON! in reference to IPC and GAMING untouched WINS.

  • August 12, 2017 at 11:52 am
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    People would say "Intel will fight back and kick the Threadripper out of the desk". But the main point is the price, it is cheaper but higher performance than the same level of Intel's existing. unless Intel release the i9 7980x or similar spec and price with AMD 1950x. Would Intel do this? No.

  • August 12, 2017 at 11:09 pm
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    I want to say sorry for a joke yesterday that was not very funny i do hope everyone forgives me i am sorry.

  • August 13, 2017 at 4:14 am
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    Threadripper will be great for businesses with a limited budget.  Intel needed a kick in the butt and AMD delivered it.  So will there be 24 and 32 core CPUs in the future, the current design seems to make it likely.

  • August 13, 2017 at 7:22 am
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    Who uses single threaded tasks go Intel as you want the old tech Intel is better for the new and future proof go amd.

  • August 13, 2017 at 8:00 am
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    Brad Chacos Intel consumer lover. who cares brad its the future rushed chips from Intel is not really going to make a difference.

  • August 14, 2017 at 7:27 am
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    saw your comment in video about torque the socket

    anytime you torque somthing you want to do it gradually across all screws on whatever you are doing in order to
    properly torque anything (if there is more than one screw involved) it is how you get the same pressure spaced
    out evenly.. (i do this everyday at work) and also to note when you get the first click on all screws make a second
    or third pass because when you torque the 2nd, 3rd, 4th screw the plate will have gone farther down making the
    first screw not be properly torqued anymore and have one corner a little loose

    (with regards to a heatsink installation you will probably be fine if you don't do the 2nd or third pass but you may get
    better contact and better heat dissipation if you make sure all screws end up being torqued properly – with my current job
    the parts being torqued are rotating at thousands of rpms normally so if you don't torque it right it can end up ruining
    the product faster)

  • August 15, 2017 at 4:39 am
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    Nobody buys this class of CPU for single core performance. It is all about performance per watt and dollar.

  • August 16, 2017 at 8:02 pm
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    mysterium conjuncionis = mysterious conjunction, in this case of the sun and the moon. i think that's the symbolism.

  • August 26, 2017 at 9:17 pm
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    So Imagine if AMD did not comeout with their innovative Rayzen lineup, intell would of continued dragging us with their anti innovation strategy that is forcing the market to follow for the last decade. We would have been coffe laked with the same old i3, i5, i7 core counts plus small frequency and cash push.

    That strategy of minor incremental update in each new generation with over pricing hill was the milking cow for intel and we would of reached the core count and performance their releasing now in 5 years time.

    THANK YOU AMD !!!!

  • October 16, 2017 at 9:41 pm
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    6th day of new 1950x build w msi gaming x 1080 gpu, 32 GB 3200 flare memory- overclocked cpu easily to 4.0 ghz but fps is terrible, struggling to stay at 70 fps on gtA5, witcher 3, 1080p 144mhz monitor. PUBG struggles to be playable at lowest settings. very disapponting. liquid cooled with ek 360 rad kit & $100 ripper ek water block, cpu reads 40 degree celsius, water in and out of rad reads 38 c degrees. Case is 750D with 7 fans, relatively cool. Overclocked the msi gaming x 1080 gpu using jay 2 cents reference video seemed fine but games freeze with jay's 200 mhz overclock, fans running 90 %, gpr temp rises to 70 degrees. games run only with 50 mhz overclock on gpu, then games freeze. Seems 1950 x struggles to keep 70fps on almost any game. set nvidia control panel to power setting maximum as jay suggested. 1950 at stock gets 60 fps in witcher 3. Help, because seems a waste of $550 for zenith mobo & $1000 for 1950x cpu. my intel 5820 x99 cpu puts this 1950x build to shame, which makes no sense. used taskmaster to end corsair commando pro & asus software suites just in case, but no fps help. have latest 801 bios rog & latest nvidia drivers, latest 690 nvme pro drivers ( it sits empty in its nvme slot.) my 5820 gets avg 13o- to 140 fps in swtor 1080p, 144mhz monitor vs 1950x 60 to 80 fps and swtor is an easy game to run. taskmanager shows nothing running. Did not do a clean install of windows 10 pro on my boot ssd. Clean win10 install is next but games run fine but a pitiful low fps 60 to 70 fps so I dont expect that would help. I expected ripper to lag intel 7900 cpu in gaming, as im into after effects, content creation, youtube, but these low fps makes gaming unbearable. My 5820 runs most every game ok. Help, please.

  • October 27, 2017 at 1:20 pm
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    I wish Adam would shut up and let Gordon talk. Nothing smart comes out of Adams mouth.

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